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Trust The Man

Posted on August 12, 2008 at 8:22 AM
Filed Under: Adam Kennedy | Adam Wainwright | Albert Pujols | Baseball | Brian Barton | Chris Carpenter | Chris Perez | Florida Marlins | Heroes and Goats | Joe Mather | Joel Pineiro | Kyle Lohse | Kyle McClellan | Milwaukee Brewers | Rick Ankiel | St. Louis Cardinals | Tony LaRussa | Yadier Molina
"Mostly the catcher had just a huge game," La Russa concluded. "Star of the game for me."
Obviously, TLR meant to say Hero instead of Star, but there's no denying that Yadier Molina had the big game last night.  The go-ahead home run would have been enough, but then to throw out both runners, plus his explicit guidance of the pitching staff and there's no debate.  It's great to see Yadi have an all-around game and get some recognition for the work he does behind the plate.

Our goat has to go to Albert Pujols, unfortunately.  Three strikeouts and a walk are not what you typically expect from Pujols, though it is notable that this is the first year since his rookie year of 2001 that he has had two three-strikeout games.  Hopefully that'll focus him and get him on a tear.

Very nice to see the team put the Chicago series behind them and come out against a tough pitcher and start off with a win.  I was very worried about Joel Pineiro going, especially when he gave up yet another lead early in the ball game.  Doing a rough skim through his game log, I come up with 13 leads that he's blown over his 19 starts.  Most of those have been of the one-run variety, but over half have ranged from two to four runs.  He's not exactly a confidence builder.  (I'll try to do the same work on the other starters for comparison soon.)

There was another quote from LaRussa that bugged me just a little, though.

"McClellan pitched out of a horrific inning. Young pitcher (Perez) stumbled a bit."
First part of that is true, reading the game description.  McClellan, with Molina's help, did get out of a jam not of his own creation.  To be able to strand a runner at third (especially the leadoff guy) with no outs is a great pitching performance.  I've got no qualms with that.

But saying Perez stumbled a bit seems a little misleading and perhaps an indication of his mindset.  Perez did walk the leadoff batter, true.  But then, after Molina's help, he struck out the next two guys.  Even if Uggla doesn't try to steal, there's a strong chance he gets out of that inning anyway.  It wasn't like there were runners on first and second, no outs like some of our other relievers have been known to do.  Or that people were hitting him all over the year.  Basically, if you can't realize that Perez's outing was one of the more "clean" saves this bullpen has had this year, there's something wrong.  Apparently, LaRussa's not ready, really, to trust Perez in that role.

As you all know by now, Carpenter is on his way back to St. Louis for evaluation.  When I first heard that, I was pretty concerned, but watching Derrick Goold on the FSN broadcast last night, he made a point that relieved my mind, at least.  It does make sense that, given how much is invested in Carpenter, they make sure that throwing isn't going to cause more problems before he throws.  If he's fine, great.  If he needs rest, well, so be it.  It's not worth risking a promising '09 for the thin reed of '08.

The apparent future closer (at least for this year) had a better outing this time in Memphis.  I expect one of the new blogs on the roll, That's A Winner, will have more on that soon as the author there is a Memphis resident.  You'd still like to see a little better numbers in the stat line, but I realize it's more about working on things than winning games during rehab.  And, as someone pointed out after his first outing, statistically he already looks like he'll fit into the bullpen!

Good to see Rick Ankiel back out on the field.  I was starting to think they'd have to DL him to get Brian Barton back on the 25-man roster today.  I'd much rather see Rick patrolling the outfield than out for a few days!  What move they are going to make for Barton is an interesting question.  Mather's been hitting pretty well lately, as we saw by him getting two Hero awards in yesterday's wrapup, but he still has options and that's big with this crew.  He might go down for two weeks and come back up on September 1.  There's really no one else unless they wanted to cut Kennedy, but that's a lot of money to be paying him, especially since he's under contract for next year.

The Cardinals try to keep the momentum going tonight when they send out their best pitcher not hurting, Kyle Lohse, to face Chris Volstad.  Volstad's never faced the Cardinals, having only six games of MLB experience.  He's done pretty well in those six, though, including six scoreless innings in Philadelphia last time out.  This could be another low-scoring night for the Redbirds.  The Marlins have seen a little more of Lohse than they had of Pineiro and with reasonable success.  He'll really have to be wary of Wes Helms, who has gone yard twice against him.

The Cards are three back in the wild card after the Brewers won last night as well.  They've won six in a row, so they should be due for a setback, though they are going out to San Diego and facing that struggling offense.  A win tonight would be a very good thing!    


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[August 12, 2008 10:19 AM]  |  link  |  reply
BrewCards said

I have to agree with TLR, Perez did stumble a bit. A lead-off walk and immediately went 3-0 on the next hitter. The Marlins and Yadi bailed him out big time with the caught stealing. That settled him down and he came back with a vengeance.

Why try to steal against the best throwing catcher and a guy throwing 96 with the tying run at the plate? Bad baseball Marlins!

[August 12, 2008 11:16 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Cardinal70 said

Yeah, running on Molina, especially with someone that isn't necessarily a speedster, is not a good idea.

I'm not saying Perez had a perfect outing, but you never hear things like that after Izzy or Franklin or even Flores do what they do.

For example, this was TLR's quote after Izzy's last save, in which two runners reached:

"You take the quality of the opponent, the importance of the game and at home, where the fans are waiting to see how it goes before they give him their tender loving care, I thought it was huge."

The situations aren't equal, of course, but there was a lot more positive public feedback for Izzy than there was for Perez.

[August 12, 2008 1:58 PM]  |  link  |  reply
CFIA said

I agree with you C70. LaRussa's unwillingness to verbally commit to Perez as the closer irks me.

If Dunc and Tony aren't sold on Perez this year with the state of our current bullpen, when are they ever going to be?

[August 12, 2008 2:05 PM]  |  link  |  reply
chetthejet said

Not the best of traditional baseball strategy, the CS. Regardless of Molina's prowess, or that Perez throws mid-90s, the base runner can sure steal a base off a pitcher in other ways. Granted, Ug didn't. But a lot of baserunning is just flat out experience and knowing if you can make it or not. Izturis did it when the Cards were down recently. Safe. Nothing said. Ug didn't, out, lots said. Can't defend the Marlins' strategy, and being a Cards' fan, I'm happy for the gift.

The knock on Perez can only be that he didn't hit Molina's glove a whole lot, just threw it by 'em and got away with it. If he doesn't use something off speed soon, he won't get away with that again.

[August 12, 2008 2:24 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Cardinal70 said

chet--It's all about situation and experience, you are right. There aren't too many situations where running on Molina is a good idea, though. You'd think the Marlins would know that....

Perez is still working on that slider somewhat, isn't he? If he gets that going well (and some of the VEB discussion today indicated that he was semi-effective with it last night) two pitches should be all he needs for his limited role.

[August 12, 2008 3:30 PM]  |  link  |  reply
mike said

I wonder why Tony consistently mis-trusts the younger pitchers on the roster. I could be reading too much into this (and with little sleep, my paranoia is way up), but his comments about Perez; waiting until September to opt for Wainwright as the closer over an obviously laboring Izzy in 2006; the whole Anthony Reyes debacle; doesn't that speak to a consistent bias?

Did he get burned by a hot prospect at some point and vow never to let it happen again?

[August 12, 2008 4:01 PM]  |  link  |  reply
chetthejet said

C70: Supposedly, Perez was told to through every other pitch a slider in Triple-A, to make sure he worked on it. Didn't transfer to the Bigs though, did it? And yes, a couple pitches Perez can command a lot better would make him quite effective on the hill. (For the life of me, I don't know how in heck any pitcher that can throw that hard can prosper without a change-up. I guess maybe they don't.)

Mike: It's way easier to put all that youth on the field when you're way over .500 early in the season, but yeah, to the point of paranoia, La Russa must feel a lot better with experience on the hill and in the field when he hits the last third of the season. You've struck a nerve, though. When Izzy's getting laced left and right, TLR stands fast, grumpy, but fast. Last night, when Perez was chucking BBs, TLR looked like he was going steady with Dunc on the bench. And Pettini standing in front of them not daring to look back. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I think Mike's on to something.

[August 12, 2008 4:06 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Cardinal70 said

I'm sure most managers do prefer the "known quantity", as it were. I mean, we know that TLR can adapt somewhat to circumstances--the Kiddie Corps of 2006 lend credence to that. Young kids can provide some amazing results, but they can also make a ton of mistakes, and TLR doesn't care too much for mistakes, I don't think.

I know Perez was supposed to work on that slider, and I've heard that it's been a dominant pitch for him ever since we was drafted. Perhaps with a little less adrenaline, it'll be more in the strike zone, or rather, close enough to swing at? I don't know. I do know that Franklin and Izzy's stuff is getting hit around the yard, so I'm willing to let Perez blow a few guys away as a change of pace.





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