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Greene Deal Basically DonePosted on December 4, 2008 at 9:17 AM Papers in both San Diego and St. Louis are reporting it, so it's about as official as it gets without a press release.Filed Under: Chris Perez | Jason Motte | Khalil Greene | Mark Worrell | San Diego Padres | St. Louis Cardinals Reading the comments on the San Diego site, it looks like Greene was a fan favorite over there, which doesn't necessarily mean much, but hopefully it indicates he's not a jerk. A minor thing, to be sure, but it can carry some weight, I believe. Bernie gives the strengths and weaknesses of the new shortstop and after reading that I feel a little better about the deal. It does require considering last year more an aberration than a trend, but if that's the case his pop in the bottom part of the order will be useful. And if someone can get him to strike out less, that'd help a lot as well. The latter may be a lost cause, however. It also helps that Greene is going into the last year of the contract. One, because of that general "free agent boost" that is at least rumored. (I can't remember if there have been studies on that or not.) Secondly, though, it doesn't tie up the Cardinals long term. If he comes in and performs, they can work on an extension. If he doesn't, he walks at the end of the year. It still doesn't sound like the players going back will be a huge loss. (Someone on the SD paper's comments said they'd be happy if Perez and Motte were coming. Sorry, but that's just not happening, because they are worth more than Greene, for one, and the reports indicate minor-league pitchers, which they aren't.) A smart, low-risk move by Mozeliak. It's not a sure thing, big splash move, but maybe knowing the cost now for the shortstop will help for a bigger move farther down the line. EDIT: Dustin Mattison sent along his recent interview with Mark Worrell. To me, this really increases the odds he's one of the ones going to SD. If he's expressed this kind of frustration to management, they are likely to send him along. EDIT2: Looks like Worrell is going. No word on the other PTBNL. Leave a comment
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There are pros and cons. Just depends on what you project for Greene. His road numbers are better than his home number, that's true. Still, I'd like to see him cut down on the strikeouts. I've read that his defense is good, but maybe overhyped. All in all, though, it's likely a good move. I live in South Carolina and Greene played his college ball at Clemson. He's still one of the all-time most popular Clemson baseball players to come through here. I would love to see some research into his RISP numbers with the Pads, 2-out hitting, etc. because he always seemed to be clutch to me. Could just be selective memory on my part. His 3 year splits (2006-2008) for those numbers aren't good: RISP: .226/.292/.410 RISP 2 out: .182/.254/.357
.267/.317/.474, 24 HR, 91 RBI in 551 ABs Cardinal70
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Thanks for the splits. The only problem with him hitting sixth (which, really, would be a problem anywhere) is that apparently he's got a tough time laying off sliders, etc. He might get more fastballs with someone else behind him. Then again, if he's that predictable, he might not. |
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I think you should be on board with Greene.
He hits very well away from PetCo over his career (118 OPS+) and is a similar defensive shortstop to Izturis but has a better arm.
This is a great deal in my opinion. Similar/better defense at the position and a potential HUGE upgrade offensively.